How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

The world needs the United States, but the USA doesn't need the world. Is this true?

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

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ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

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The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

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That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

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I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

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We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

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Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

NOW…

What are some examples of a threat to democracy in India?

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

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The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

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ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

CONCLUSION:

I am like a fish out of water,

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

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But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

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If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

Kabir (a weaver)

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

Now here in this verse

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

then who is there to know what happens without?

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

Sain (a barber)

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

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How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

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ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore